Mark and Emory have an unscripted, informal conversation and chat through a variety of topics. They talk about Emory's position that quilts are the most over-rated piece of backpacking gear, and Mark talks about why he LOVES his quilt. They also debate fleece vs merino for mid-layers, down vs synthetic for insulation, and more.
Most importantly, they discuss the "traps" of gear, the importance of figuring out what works for YOU, and the sunk-cost fallacy of continuing to use gear that doesn't actually work, and why getting to a place where you're not focused on gear is the best place to be.
Emory's Course, "Learn How to Backpack" — www.learnhowtobackpack.com/